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GPT4
Fuckin' hell, mate, that's a damn twisted way to soak in the Velvet Underground's third shitstorm of an album. You got it right, those fans must've been thrown for a helluva loop, expecting the same ear-bleeding, raw-as-fuck sound, and then getting slapped with this introspective, mellow-ass vibe. It's like going from a balls-to-the-wall bash to a goddamn Zen garden. Lou Reed, that sly motherfucker, he sure knew how to spin a yarn and keep you guessing, didn't he? It's like he's flipping the bird to expectations and doing whatever the fuck he pleases. And you mention "Candy Says," shit, that tune is like a whispered secret from the deepest part of your soul, ain't it? So, what's your take on the change-up, huh? You think it was all because Cale split and they snagged Yule, or maybe it was just the natural ebb and flow of their fucked-up genius? And how about "The Murder Mystery"? You reckon it's a stroke of brilliance or just pretentious as hell?
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LittleMacCa
Какими бы прорывными ни были первые два альбома, третий останется для меня любимым и родным.
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HuppumiesIsPest
I often only listen to Candy Says from this album, but I really should spin the whole thing more often. Many good tracks here.
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nessrocks08
Anyone else detect a strong Beatle's influence? "What goes on..." especially. Not too farfetched considering this album came out in 69.
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nevershoutn
wtf people are complaining about this album? just enjoy this masterpiece, along with all other VU albums
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MyMediaMusic
Great album. After cutting a couple of ground-breaking psychedelic/proto-punk masterpieces, The Velvet Underground, sans John Cale, wanted to mellow out and record a softer rock album, a la Rubber SOul. What's wrong with that? This album is awesome, and with the Murder Mystery, it still has that experimental element that the first two had. Also, Doug Yule has such a fantastic singing voice, and it's great to hear Lou Reed's sensitive side.
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Tetr4gr4mm4ton
I'm sorry, I love "The Velvet Underground & Nico" and "White Light/White Heat" , but THIS is so much better!!!
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Avgvstine
The music on this record isn't just soft, it's repressed (perhaps a deliberate "fuck you" to the creative direction Cale wanted to take). The Velvet Underground are regarded as the single most influential rock band solely because of their first two albums; the subsequent records, which are mere footnotes and VU records in name only, have nothing to do with their legend.
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Avgvstine
No, not according to me; I didn't write that. Among the songs you listed, only "I'll Be Your Mirror" could have found a place on a post-Cale record (albeit in a form degraded by the absence of Nico's tone-deaf drawl). The self-titled album is a good album, but not one worthy of the Velvet Underground name. That's the problem: because it carries that name it will always be compared to the first two records. It's impossible to look at an album titled "The Velvet Underground" in a vacuum where those two earth-shattering records don't exist.
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atom217
I'm sorry, I just don't like that you speak in such absolutes like you have the final say on this matter. People are allowed to disagree with you and whatever critics you seem to form your opinions through. Were the first two albums more influential and ground-breaking? Yes. That doesn't mean that the records after it are "not Velvet Underground". That's just arrogant bullshit talk and makes music discussion very frustrating. It's like talking to the comic book guy from The Simpsons.
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El_Salvador7
Part of what makes the Velvet Underground such a unique and amazing group is the fact that they didn't tie themselves to one style or sound. They adopted many different ones, diverse in origin, on each record they made. It was in the essence of the Velvet Underground. This record has some awesome tunes, just because they are leaning more towards pop here compared to certain parts of their debut album it don't mean it can't have any value. Still a lot of sonic experimentation going on, I tell you.
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TheSeparator
TVU is not TVU without John Cale. Especially compared to WL/WH this is a total snoozefest.
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rhayader18
@sbes114: If we want to be rational about it , yes, it's the best album of all time... I'm a crazy person and as much as I love this, I love WL/WH even more.
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