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EBMpadonag
It's a shame they don't release more albums. The Noisuf-X project is the way down.
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Kaltenhoenn
I was a big fan until I learned his personality. It was like 2012 and "new album will be released when I hit 10000 page likes on FB". He banned me when I commented "attention, attention, here I come" (xD). In 2013 there were 10000 likes and "What Remains Is Black" turned out to be pure crap. He would never stop to complain about the pesky pirates who don't pay for his music, ignoring all the very dedicated fans who were all around him. Wanna live off music revenue? Don't pick niche styles. And treat your fans well. Up to that point his albums are very cool.
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PostLetterGuy
How often you still want to tell this story? Unlike you, some people are trying to make a living from the music and the fact how music is nowadays treated as a background noise released on streaming services makes it hard to make any money at all from sales alone. Fans are nice and all but it isnt always enough. There is a reason there are almost no more studio only project since only stuff that can be played live makes money because that is the major source of income nowadays. Its a shame but thats how it is. Also dont judge his personality by this one FB post thing, its obvious you never met him live or behind stage. What Remains Is Black wasnt even bad though he certainly released better albums. That being said, I think he quit or at least paused making music. After covid hit, there has been almost no more life signs and even his websites are down.
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Massenmord
I've always prefered Noisuf-X, but now I'm re-discovering Rotten To The Core and realize that I miss X-Fusion.
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PorcusGrunzus
One of my favorite artists. Very unique and every release sounds great. I think Vast Abysm and Ultima Ratio are my favorites. Really wish he would release something new.
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TheArrow1987
I always like some songs from most of his albums especially on "Demons Of Hate" to me it's his best album. On the other albums there are songs I like and songs that are boring. I find bands like Agonoize, x-rx and Centhron MUCH worse. But that's always the case for me with harsh / dark electro, it's very hit and miss. There might be an artist I really like and the next artist might be crap to me.
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Dimension5
His music is quality like that of The Retrosic or Painbastard, and yes i agree that X-Rx and Centhron are crap
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PostLetterGuy
Hm. He might not release anything right now but to be honest I don't regret buying every single of his releases. His X-Fusion stuff is godlike. I don't think you can waste your money here. It's not getting much better than X-Fusion if you are into dark electronic music.
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PostLetterGuy
This is sadly the generation we are living in right now. Its a general problem. Spotify doesn't help the cause either. And since X-Fusion doesn't work live not even there he can actually get some money. It is really a tragedy. Well I know for sure that it is not my fault. I have everything from him including all limited collector releases. He is actually my favorite artist and X-Fusion my favorite project. Well, maybe he will still create some new X-Fusion music, even if it is a lot less frequent than before. I saw a post of him on Facebook about him releasing some new "X-" material. I wasn't sure whether he was referring to X-Fusion or Noisuf-X. Either way, a week or two later he announced a new Stoppenberg release. Hope he wasn't referring to this. Would be a huge letdown. I want new X-Fusion material. :(
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PostLetterGuy
Think it was because he can't really pull of the sound of X-Fusion live and alone. Sound is to advanced and complicated. There is a reason its a studio only project. But those projects have it the hardest. Wumpscut quit for the same reason since without a proper live audience you can't pull of this music anymore since the time to produce it doesn't outweight the moneygain simply because most people just download for free nowadays. They don't do the music as a hobby like many other artists, it is their actual life and job.
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Lextasys
I'm not so sure that is true. He should use only instrumental music on playback, and he does the voice in real. I mean, many artist do the same thing. See ; Agonoize. Dual keyboard on the stage for no reason. What are they doing on the stage behind the keyboard? They are sometimes pushing some key on the board. I hardly believe that is true music in live. They are use many playback item on the stage.
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Toma400
We say, "artist doesn't need money to create soulful art, because if they need, they're just selling out". But truth is, art needs money to survive. Artist can't live hungry, nearly homeless, just sacrificing everything for art. So it's sad to see this trend of people only downloading the music, giving no fuck of its future evolution. I'm in this trend also, but it's combined with buying: just, you can't afford everything, when you listen to +200 artist and treat them equally. But this is really different case.
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Kaltenhoenn
The project was pretty much over when he decided to postpone the release of (atrociously weak) "What Remains Is Black" until he gets 10000 Facebook followers back in 2011. It took him two years to double the count from nearly 5000. Over the period, instead of making music and caring about the big amount of very dedicated followers, he's been moaning that he can't make a living off his music because of these pesky evil pirates. I've stopped to care about anything he does when he deleted my comment "Attenttion, attention here I come" with which I'm ending this post too.
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Toma400
One good thing versionfiv did by this bitching everywhere how EBM (especially X-F/N-X) is shit: I started liking X-Fusion. Really, I never got into this and lately I checked some of their songs again, just to try to taste things so hated by someone. And well, even if not awesome, but at least it sounds good! "Leave No Seed" is just beautiful.
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PostLetterGuy
I don't even understand why he doesn't like X-Fusion. I would have figured his music taste to just be fitting for X-Fusion. Noisuf-X on the other hand is a whole different matter of course.
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TheArrow1987
Just do the same as I did, block versionfiv. He is just useless and a waste of time. He also is an elitist and insults people and is a bully. He doesn't respect other people's opinions.
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TheArrow1987
He insulted and bullied me multiple times back then, I don't want to have anything to do with him ever again.
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PostLetterGuy
I actually think he is alright. He is just a bit twisted but being that deep into Black Metal does that with you I guess. Beside, he actually doesn't seem to hate X-Fusion that much. He posted some positive comments to some albums. Maybe he just didn't like to what the project has developed to or Jan just doing Techno lately. He does have some gems in his library and is probably the best person you look for if you need Black Metal. Furthermore he has connections with many bands also from the Industrial genre.
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PostLetterGuy
@Xestiuis: They get nearly nothing from Spotify. Really. Actually Spotify is another reason why artists earn less. I never used this service and never will. Not only because of what I said but also because I hate the idea of always needing web connection to listen to something. Also the streaming quality sucks. I rather have Flacs/MP3s on my smartphone or a CD/Vinyl in the player...
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PostLetterGuy
Yeah, I can see this when I take a look how shody recorded your Black Metal Albums are.
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Smartfan07
One of the best and most unique bands in whole genre, as for me. I very much want a new album or at least any sign of it...
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PostLetterGuy
@Smartfan07: Jan is still alive. X-Fusion too. I would eat a brom if he decides to quit this project. It is pretty much his life. He ever since used X-Fusion as a name, already since before 1990. Its his insignia. Noisuf-X is the same just backwards. Also X-Fusion Music Produtions. He still did some featurings or remixes in the last years btw. Check out Viscera Drip Feat. X-Fusion. Stunning! He probably just takes some break to embrace new ideas and maybe having will and some money again. I hardly doubt What Remains Is Black will be his last release. Always wanted a early works collection release.
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Smartfan07
Well, of course I hope for better. And I'm ready to wait any time in case the result is going to be as perfect as "Demons of Hate" ablum or "Rotten to the Core" album.
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PostLetterGuy
Yeah. Mainstreamers crave for generic club beats nowadays. Meh. X-Fusion was one of the best music projects ever...
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ProjectPickaxe
well said postal dude. I buy music too. I've met people who claim to be true fans, yet haven't paid a penny for any music. it's terrible. they'll spend $5 on a cup of coffee that takes only a few minutes to make, and once you drink it all, you must buy another if you want more. but they won't spend $1 to buy a song on iTunes that cost thousands of dollars to record and produce, holds artistic value to the person who wrote it, and once purchased, can be played an infinite number of times. nobody cares about music anymore. it's all about movies, comic books, and video games now. to which everyone I know spends hundreds of dollars on, but hardly any money on music.
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PostLetterGuy
@ProjectPickaxe True. However, I think people also use downloads for movies or use Streaming Services. Only a few still spent on physical copies. Also movies can fund themself with other ways. Ways that music artists dont have. Music is everywhere nowadays but often as video medium or radio track. Or as Spotify streaming track. Or... Well, as pirated medium... Less and less buy physical CDs or properly support the artists. It is all about the cheapest price. Or listening it for free. -_-
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Toma400
I can say I download most of music I listen - so I am probably this "mess" who is making the music in the state it is nowadays, but: look at my library and try to imagine how it will be if I want to have everything in physical copy. It's impossible. So I have some rules: I buy albums if I like them enough, and before this, I download half an album - for surprise when listening it in full (when bought) and for motivation. Half album is quite enough to make an opinion. So it could be said I'm half-supporter, or even full supporter cause I don't think most of you pay for everything. Just sayin', most of people prefer to spend their money on cigarettes or alcohol, or whatever they think is more important, than music/games/movies (and I think music is only a bit more downloaded, as everyone listen music and not everyone watch/play, but all of these things are pirated much) which makes this sad. Even it's sad that people prefer to buy digital albums / singles than physical. (...)
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Toma400
... It's not even comparable to have physical copy, especially with special book with lyrics, and the first time of listening can be magic moment. I'm proud to have whole discography (including rare compilations, EPs, singles, etc.) of Project Pitchfork and it wouldn't be the same if I pirated anything from them.
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PostLetterGuy
Man, wish there would be a new album. Might not get one anytime soon though. X-Fusion has high production and time costs. Jan barely covers the productions costs and has only a very little win from it, if even any... Thanks to damn pirating nowadays... Goddamn buy the music guys, even if its just for around 10 euro in a digital store. Im always someone who either buys stuff Digitally or Physically. In X-Fusions/Noisuf-Xs case I have EVERYTHING physically and in several Editions. Why not supporting the artists which music you like? But this is a general problem nowadays... For small indie scene artists its just worse.
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PostLetterGuy
Lextasys: alfred129 is funny anyway. Its his 5th most scrobbeld artists but he seems to think its only average. So he listens to this music because he thinks its boring?... uhm. Wanna know my rating? 9/10 Why? Unique, catchy, great, not boring.
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Serpentz
Well said nervouzbeatz - I used to like this guy and his music...but no thought went into holding his CD hostage until he got more fans on Facebook. Absolutely a ridiculous move by Jan and yeah...I know it happened long ago. But I no longer listen to his music. Your music has to be good, but so should your character.
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skalberg242
"I mean, isn't it the Black Metal genre, where every dumbass with a guitar records some unidentifiable "riffs", paints himself with stereotypic corpsepaint and calls it "Underground" for the sake of uniquess or whatever?" Every music genre is flooded with talentless people. There are tons of crappy bands in black metal, but you will also find some of the more innovative and memorable bands in the whole metal spectra there. Dark electro, on the other hand, is very limited and the genre has no innovative frontrunners like black metal has (and has had) with bands like Deathspell Omega, Blut Aus Nord, Ved Buens Ende, Dødheimsgard etc.
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Toma400
If you tried only some of the most known bands, like Combichrist or Faderhead, no wonder why you think that about dark electro. It's like you think black metal is out of talent after listening only Behemoth/Belphegor/Immortal. Try Mentallo & the Fixer, Placebo Effect, yelworC, as the easiest examples. (they are also precursors of this genre)
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skalberg242
I don't count bands like Mentallo & The Fixer or Placebo Effect as dark electro. I guess people view it differently. Just like when people argue if a band like Mercyful Fate is black metal or not.
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Nordpolar
You should try to create some Electrosongs, then. You seemingly have no talent at all, and your english... oh your english, is it bad. Beyond belief. Funny thing a person listening to Black Metal mostly complains about "bad music by talentless people". I mean, isn't it the Black Metal genre, where every dumbass with a guitar records some unidentifiable "riffs", paints himself with stereotypic corpsepaint and calls it "Underground" for the sake of uniquess or whatever? I know I'm right :)
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SyntheticCorps6
Electro anyone can make because one needs neither talent or prestidigitation. X-Fusion is getting boring and his go out of ideas and everything turns in a circle and always the same. Jan = Musical prostitution and Noisuf-X is absolute shit a music without background and without meaning. ONLY KIDS
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CrySTALcrafter
"Very unique and amazing sound! " He has stolen many of the songs from Capcom Sound Team.
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PostLetterGuy
I love this guy! One or maybe THE favorite of my bands! Very unique and amazing sound! Cant understand the hate against Jan. He is a good man. Sure that he doesnt like pirates, he earns money with this job and I can understand it that he hates the ones who "steal" his music. Even though I think there is no way around it in our times. And seriously, He doesnt ignore his fans... Never recognized it. And What Remains Is Black isnt bad at all! Sure its not the best but its a typical X-Fusion album. And Trockenblume has an interesting new sound. I only wish there would be some more tracks or at least a limited edition of it, with bonus tracks. Like this its the album with the smallest playtime. But that is the only blemish I can tell about it.
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unholynoise
"What's most disappointing about the album is that it took him over a year to release the album as it was on hiatus until he reached 10,000 fans on Facebook." yes,this is very embarrassing,so sad. Anyway i have all his albums before that..
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bloodgod18
Zajebisty polski opis, dowiesz się wszystkiego tylko nie tego z jakiego kraju jest ten projekt
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IAmTheClaw
Pretty much everything nervouzbeatz said was spot on. Making the music mostly for money is one thing (and not even a bad thing in itself); bitching about pirates and pretty much holding an album hostage until you get more likes on FB is quite another. The pirates get a laugh out of it; the long-time supporters just shake their heads and walk away.
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nervouzbeatz
It's hard to walk away from music that's been a part of my life for nearly a decade, but everytime I listen to his music it reminds me of the person that he is. "What Remains Is Black" is a good album, but he's done better and he can do way better. What's most disappointing about the album is that it took him over a year to release the album as it was on hiatus until he reached 10,000 fans on Facebook. I wonder how many of those fans are bullshit fans? How many of those fans bought an album? If I had not gotten to know this guy as a person his music would still be the best, but now whenever I hear his music I get reminded of the person that's behind the music; a horrible person with no respect for his real fans, a person self indulged in fame he's never had and never will have.
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